Shell Game: The 25-Shell Limit Rule

By J.R. Robbins Published: 8/12/2008

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Does the government really need to tell us how many shotshells we can take into a duck blind?

An increasing number of waterfowlers don’t seem to think so.

A rule limiting waterfowl hunters to 25 shells is in effect on some national wildlife refuges and many state wildlife management areas. (There is no way to tell a total number without checking every refuge and WMA.)

Here’s a typical comment about the rule we heard recently from a hunter in Lakeland, Florida:

“The 25-shell limit at Merritt Island on the Atlantic Coast of Florida?  I have hunted at MINWR for now over three decades.  The non-toxic rule was hard to swallow at the time, but we lived through it, and now I wouldn't have it any other way.  But a shell limit?

 “Although I am a practiced shot now, it may always take some additional shots to kill a cripple.  This also limits me to only one gauge or gun.  I often hunt teal early with a smaller shot size, then may go heavier, and until this year always kept my 10 gauge handy for the added punch needed to get them when they only work the edges of the decoys.” 

“Another thought:  How is law enforcement supposed to enforce the rule? Sit in the marsh with a tally counter and try to count your shots?  Maybe search your boat and find a couple extra empties?  The empties might be from another hunt that haven't been cleaned out before season’s end.  How about the rule at MINWR that you are not even allowed to have any other ammo in your truck? What if I go to MINWR for the weekend?  I told a staffer in jest that I would have to trade trucks to make sure I didn't have any extra ammo. With trap and skeet league, sporting clays, doves, ducks, etc. I always have ammo rolling around. The shell limit is at the least a hindrance and is potential for an overzealous officer to abuse a law-abiding citizen.”

Another hunter from California wrote:  “The limit for ducks here in California is seven per day. The goose limit is four with some restrictions. That being said, I consider myself a true sportsman and a pretty good shot. However, I still only hit about one out of every three ducks/geese I shoot at. You don't need to be a math wiz to figure out I will run out of shells before I get my limit of ducks/geese.”

Both these gentlemen make good points. I’ve only ever heard two reasons supporting the 25-shell rule: One, it’s supposed to discourage sky-busting, or shooting at birds out of range. Doing so often cripples birds without hope of retrieving them. It can also spook them away from other hunters in nearby blinds who might have had a chance at them.

For the record, sky-busting is deplorable. Learning to wait until a bird is in range is one of the fundamental challenges of waterfowling. It can be difficult at first, but with practice anyone can master it. NRA has always encouraged hunters—all hunters, not just waterfowlers—to develop marksmanship skills that ensure game is dispatched quickly and surely. 

However, there seems to be no research at all proving that a 25-shell limit discourages sky-busting. My feeling is that imposition of the rule affects all of us when only a fraction of yahoos are guilty in the first place. 

I have also heard the argument that one box of shells “ought to be enough” for any competent marksman to limit out. Well, maybe so. Yes, competent hunters ought to be able to down a duck with a minimum of shots.  But particularly with young hunters or adults new to hunting, it can take some time to become competent.

Regardless, should a 26th shell on your person, or left in your truck from a previous hunt really make you a criminal? Other than creating another nit-picking rule that can turn an inadvertent mistake into a crime, I fail to see what this regulation does. Already, waterfowlers may be checked by game wardens for licenses, stamps, permits, non-toxic shot and HIP numbers.  Forcing them to count how many shotshells we have on us--which really requires a personal search--is a waste of their time, an affront to us, and does nothing for game management.

Isn’t education a better answer than legislation? More and more states are now offering waterfowl clinics. Range estimation is, or should be, part of those classes.  And if you’re new to waterfowling and not sure about estimating distance, you can always hunt with a guide who can help you. You can also practice in your backyard, just by hanging a decoy in a tree and stepping off various distances. 

A few years ago, it was brought to NRA's attention that the Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife and Fish Refuge was planning to impose a 25-shotshell restriction. NRA weighed in on that issue, rasing concerns similar to those expressed in this article. As of result of opposition by NRA and local hunters, the restriction was withdrawn from the management plan for the refuge. 

The important point is that hunter involvement in refuge management plans can make a difference in whether a shotshell restriction is imposed or not.

We’d like to know of other areas where this rule is in effect, and how you feel about it. Let us know by sending a message to us at: huntersrights@nrahq.org.

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Comments
We have a real problem here. The Federal Law enforcement officials don't think they have to obey the 4th amendment. And in many cases they are right, but the real issue here is that we have a Federal Government that is out of control. They are not welcome on my land.

From Brian on Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:31 PM
In the War Between the States, soldiers were issued 40 rounds of ammo and when a battle was immediately impending, 20 more rounds were issued for a total of 60 rounds. And the ammunition wagon was usually close at hand so you could get more if needed. Sometimes ammo got scarce and you would have to rifle through the equipment of fallen soldiers to get more ammo. Have we not learned from history that there is no such thing as "TOO MUCH AMMO?!"

From Michael Esh on Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:16 PM
Obama said that he wanted our government involved in our daily lives during his campaign. I could be wrong, but I do strongly believe that I don't need or want that much involvement by "our" government. When I want "help or assistance" from them I will ask for it.

From Jim Woodward on Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:07 AM
All public areas is CA have been under the 25 shells while in the field rule for the last 20 years. In this hunters opinion it has done nothing to discourage those who skybust. With a 7 duck/4 goose limit it just makes me have to walk back to my truck on those days when I'm not "on." Additionaly, it may take a couple of shells to dispatch cripples.

From Lawrence on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:28 PM
I do not hunt ducks nor geese but this is the first step towards limiting everyone on how much ammo you are allowed to own and keep in your own home. BEWARE ALL, IT'S THE FIRST STEP.

From Richard A. Wells on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:51 PM
Our tax dollars at work, the only problem is they can't find any intelligent thing to do with their time. TOTAL stupidity.

From Chuck Blair on Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:43 PM
Why is it that when you hunt or fish your fourth amendment rights no longer apply? Communism!

From Mike on Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:09 PM
Why? Doesn't the government have anything better to do? Try to do something worth while. This is just B.S.

From Roger Taylor on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:20 PM
Did you get out and vote against Obama or did you not vote at all?

From Phelps on Monday, March 29, 2010 3:36 PM
Just one more step towards being a communist country with the government telling you what to buy. They already tell you what kind to buy, now it's how much to buy, next it will be what day of the week you can buy.

From Jason on Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:28 PM
I was curious about Federal Game Warden accountability to the public and law enforcement while persevering right to search,confiscate, impound property and arrest. Who decides reasonable doubt when the court is not ready at hand?

From michael Baetzhold on Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:24 AM
We have a 15-shell limit on one very heavily used public hunting area. The purpose was, in part, to reduce skybusting, but was primarily to promote more rapid rotation of hunting parties through the area so more people get a chance to hunt. Otherwise, one group of hunters would sit in the best blind all day. I think this works in this hunting area because the hunting is so good that it is quite possible to limit with 15 shells over decoys, and it is a VERY heavily used area. On larger, open hunt areas, I am not a fan of shell limits.

From nwducks on Monday, November 30, 2009 11:19 AM
Why don't they just tell us that we can only take ducks by throwing rocks at them. That's what this is leading up to.

From Dave Forgione on Friday, November 06, 2009 8:44 PM
Maybe that's why we were so eager to "tune-up" in dove season and the limit is 16. Unless the limit on ducks has gone up, we in VA are only going to be able to take 3 or 4 ducks, and any kind of a shot at all it seems could do that in 25 tries. When 3 1/2-inch mag shotguns showed up, people thought they could shoot too far away. Have to go to a range to figure that.

From Jack Wolford on Friday, November 06, 2009 8:14 PM
This has to be one of the more idiotic restrictions I have heard. How many hunters have had a "bad day" when for some reason the ducks just will not fall? I always bring 2 boxes (50 rounds). I never shoot that many, but have been known to loan a few to those who brought too few.

From H. G. Honsinger on Friday, November 06, 2009 12:03 AM
I no longer hunt ducks or anything else on the Cape Wildlife area. One of the most arrogant persons that has ever carried a badge, had blocked an exit road and just sat in his truck, not in uniform, and when asked by one of the four Deputy Sheriff's to move his truck so they could leave, he informed them he didn't give a damn who they were, that he was a Federal Game Warden, and he was going to check all the ducks in the truck. Being found perfectly legal, the deputies were allowed to leave. Were they under arrest, no. But prohibited from leaving by the arrogance of this man, would make you believe you were under arrest. I no longer hunt Ducks in any area after all the B.S. this person dished out.

From Edward Hornsby on Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:37 PM
Just more infringements on the 2nd Ammendment.

From Robert Briggs on Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:48 PM
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